Tuner Maneuver Magazine, issues with plagiarism?

[CandlestickPark]

Because some of us are considering contributing to this magazine or having our cars featured I'd thought I share this with you. Looks like they have had some issues with plagiarism, on multiple occasions, in the past. Not trying to start any trouble, just want people to make an informed decision when considering whether or not to associate yourself with this magazine.

I'm sure TMM will chime in on this.

http://nwp4life.zeroforum.com/zerothrea ... 263&page=1 (http://nwp4life.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=33263&page=1)

[OSSHWA]

Hmm, thats news to me.

I can't actually view the link because i'm at work and whatever it is my webfilter blocks me from viewing it, but I will definitely check it out when I get home.

Keep in mind I only volunteer my time/work for the magazine, much like a blogger/contributor does for hellaflush.com. I don't actually run the mag.

Only thing I do is write the features, which I can assure you are my own words. We have featured a few cars that have appeared on other websites such as hellaflush (SP00L's red WRX), canibeat (the black G35 in our upcoming issue) and even here (the black E30 in our upcoming issue), but it would take all the fun away from what I do if I used other's words to write a feature article. I volunteered to be the feature coordinator/writer for the simple fact that I love automotive journalism.

As for what Jay does, which is the primarily the stuff on the homepage (news, show covereage, etc etc) and conducting interviews, I only know him but so well (via the internet), but he seems like a very legit, down to earth guy in my opinion.

But i'm sure Jay can chime in and clarify on some things, and i'm going to have a word with him about this when I get home.

I just wanted to take a brief moment to clear my own name, as i'm just a small portion of TMM as a whole.

[Elle]

hmmm... very. very. interesting... :? :?:

[Elvis]

What the fuck! I'm just sitting here reading through that thread in awe. I need an explanation asap.

[b00duh]

oh shit. that's not good at all.

[OSSHWA]

Ok, so i'm home now (Parenthood is on a commercial break at the moment.....kick ass show by the way) and I just visited the link post up to and all I can say is wow. I'm floored by that. I'm going to send him a message on facebook, providing him with the the link posted above, as well as the direct link to this thread.

I honestly had no idea things like that were going on. I just knew Jay through the fact that they featured my car about a year ago on the website, which led to a friendship via myspace/facebook, and then I jumped at the opportunity to become a writer for the website when a position became available.

Seeing something like this makes me seriously question whether or not I want to be affiliated with the magazine. On one end, it provides a stepping stone to break into the automotive journalism industry, and could potentially open doors for me in the future. But on the other end, it could tarnish my name now that things like this are surfacing.

Either way, i'm not going to jump to any conclusions just yet until I talk to him and/or he chimes in on the matter.

But once again, I can assure you that the feature cars are purely my own words, though that doesn't hinder the fact that there is plagiarism occurring on the website.

[EAmon]

f*** joey. that is all

[tunermaneuvermag]

I just got off work and noticed this. I am an honest and truthful guy. I will admit there have been some bad acts in the past that thread has started almost a year ago and we have sent our apology letters many times. We had some writers in the beginning writing for us when first starting out and a few other times that were high school kids just getting their start in the industry, me being the type of guy I am. I gave them a chance since I believe we all have to start somewhere. Well they started out on the wrong leg and were plagiarizing. At the time being new I wasn’t unaware of it until the other site/publication contacted me in regards to it. I instantly removed the articles and told the writers they could no longer work for me. I then hired another writer a few months ago and they did the same things as if to make us look even worse. I am not here to hurt anyone or steal content. We source everything and give credit where it’s owed. I run all articles written by my writers through the same software colleges check papers with for plagiarism. I have taken a bad rep because of this and I have spoke with my lawyer in regards to removing these threads due to digital defamination. I do tons of work for charities and would give anyone my shirt off my back. I am not out there to do anyone including stance nation wrong. I think once a thread starts now everyone finds a way to bring you down to a lower level to make them feel like the bigger man and to be part of the bandwagon action.

[tunermaneuvermag]

on a second note, if we werent doing things right I dont think Redline Time Attack & Formula Drift which both know about these issues and look past them because of who we are today and what we've learned would have us on board if we weren't running a tight ship that is orignal and legit.

[tunermaneuvermag]

I make no money at this at all, I do all of this strictly for the passion. I was a marketing rep for a turbo company before getting laid off. I wanted to stay involved so I started a blog type site that turned into a publicaiton.

[stephen]

oh my..

[tunermaneuvermag]

All I will say is give me a chance you wont see any plagerism nor will I steer any of you wrong or cross any of you in anyway. Just give me a chance. America is full of second chances.

[OSSHWA]

All I will say is give me a chance you wont see any plagerism nor will I steer any of you wrong or cross any of you in anyway. Just give me a chance. America is full of second chances.

You shouldn't have to ask for a second chance to begin with. You explained what happened, which was over a year ago anyways. If people didn't make mistakes, then no one would ever learn anything.

I write the features, and I wasn't associated in the least with TMM up until a few months ago, so its safe to say i'm not going to copy/paste features......

[tunermaneuvermag]

Thanks bro!

[OSSHWA]

I just find it interesting that no one else has said anything after your explanation. :?:

[Elle]

whats there to say? should we argue with him & hate on the magazine or give him the benefit of the doubt & drop the subject... seems as though people chose the second option... isn't that what you'd prefer????

[tunermaneuvermag]

I dunno maybe thats a good thing? no matter what I push forward.

[OSSHWA]

whats there to say? should we argue with him & hate on the magazine or give him the benefit of the doubt & drop the subject... seems as though people chose the second option... isn't that what you'd prefer????

lol yes of course. I guess I just find it unsettling when people don't give a response. Its like when you have an argument with your girlfriend (well, this only applies to those who have a spouse....i'm currently single....booo!) via text and then when you think everything has been ironed out, she doesn't reply to an important text :lol:

[b00duh]

I can understand that everything goes through a rough patch. That was the magazine's rough patch. You guys seem like stand up guys and I see no point in bashing the magazine. Jay explained his side of the story, which is good because I believe in hearing all sides of a story. Good on you guys for speaking up.

[grambo]

I just find it interesting that no one else has said anything after your explanation. :?:

It was a good-solid explanation backed by fact. I've hired plenty of crappy employees. It happens. You cannot do much about it other than react when they blow it and clean up the mess they create.

[OSSHWA]

I just find it interesting that no one else has said anything after your explanation. :?:

It was a good-solid explanation backed by fact. I've hired plenty of crappy employees. It happens. You cannot do much about it other than react when they blow it and clean up the mess they create.

I'd like to think i'm one of the better apples Jay has brought on board :mrgreen:

[CandlestickPark]

Very glad to hear all of those issues are in the past. When I was reading that thread, I was thinking to myself the guys I've been dealing with at TMM are good dudes. I was shocked really. Thanks for the explanation guys.

[tunermaneuvermag]

Thank you! You guys are going to love our Stance issue!

[OSSHWA]

Very glad to hear all of those issues are in the past. When I was reading that thread, I was thinking to myself the guys I've been dealing with at TMM are good dudes. I was shocked really. Thanks for the explanation guys.

No problem.

I need to talk to you soon about you know what. I'll PM ya later after work :)

[tunermaneuvermag]

who me ? lol

[OSSHWA]

who me ? lol

No, not you Jay :lol:

Someone is supposed to be our cover car on the June issue.....cough cough.....just wanted to make sure he was still up for it, and if he had the new pics to send over.....cough cough.

[tunermaneuvermag]

haha nice :), I am looking for someone to do a how to on rolling fenders. Anyone interested?

[Elvis]

I think we got this figured out.

*Locked*